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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day
    PAN_SPRCHA
    PAN_SPRCHA --- ---
    PULNOC: vědečtí pracovníci jsou lidi a ne nějací superhrdinové. Nejdřív musí zaplatit hypotéku, nákup, složenky a pak můžou řešit prospěch lidstva.

    Ale jinak jsi prostě příliš naivní optimista. Prý že "kdokoliv tento svet ovlada nebo se o to snazi". :))))

    Jako po tom co jsem absolvoval nějaký čas u vládních struktur, v Bruselu atd. , považuju každého kdo má pocit že ten bordel na kolečkách někdo řídí za bezbřehého optimistu.
    PALEONTOLOG
    PALEONTOLOG --- ---
    PULNOC: do role konspiračního blázna ses pasovala sama tím, co napříč tímhle serverem trousíš. problémy s pychikou ti nyx nevyřeší, musíš se objednat někam jinam
    PALEONTOLOG
    PALEONTOLOG --- ---
    PULNOC: doba postfaktická se ale vyznačuje tím, že lidi jako ty vydávají ověřená pravdy za fikce, ne obráceně :D
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    PULNOC: to je ale naprosto normalni, ze media se snazi ovlivnovat tim, nebo druhym smerem. Media reprezentuji nejaky vysek spolecnosti (ctenari, kteri plati, nebo konzumuji rekalmu) a proto pro ne dana media vytvareji clanky. Zaroven tim pusobi na politickou reprezentaci (jednotlivcum se to dela vyrazne hure). Cela lidska spolecnost vzdy byla a bude o ovlivnovani druhych, neni to nic spatneho.

    To ze vychazeji horsi prognozy se zaroven muze (a nemusi) opirat o fakta. Uz je na kazdem z nas, jak moc si to dohleda a overi z duveryhodnych zdroju (napr. pravidelne zlravy IPCC, IEA, atd). Osobne verim tomu, ze budoucnost mych deti nebude tak ruzova jak muj zivot, ale s kolosem spolecnosti se v kratkodobem horizontu velmi tezko hybe. Coz neznamena, ze by to mel kazdy ihned vzdat, protoze pak je jiste, ze dojde spis k tomu horsimu. Tou nejlepsi akci je, pridat ruku k dilu. Nemusi ani jit o nic zasadniho, dulezity je zacit. Pokud to tak udela kazdy, neceho vyznamnyho jako spolecnost dosahneme.

    Musi te to samozrejme i naplnovat, jinak to dlouhodobe nejde zvladat. Souvisi to s tim strachem jak rikas, pokud lidi budou delat veci, ve kterych vidi smysl, je vyrazne vetsi pravdepodobnost naplneni potencialu a dosazeni lepsich vysledku... a tim padem i mensim uzkostem z toho, co se kde pise nebo rika
    PALEONTOLOG
    PALEONTOLOG --- ---
    PULNOC: nemám pro tebe slušného slova, takže se omezím na mínus.
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    PULNOC: co te na diskuzi presne tolik rozrusuje?

    Ptam se vazne. Z myho pohledu tam jednou vsichni musime, tak proc spechat, kdyz si to muzes cely zazit?

    Sebevrazda je jak odejit v pulce filmu. Ani nevis jestli to dobre dopadlo...
    PAN_SPRCHA
    PAN_SPRCHA --- ---
    PULNOC: proč? Klimatická změna je fascinující z hlediska vzorců chování klimatu.
    ZAHRADKAR
    ZAHRADKAR --- ---
    ZAHRADKAR: udělali anketu, asi půlka vědců z IPCC jim odpověděla, nejčastější očekávání jsou 3C oteplení, buckle up
    ZAHRADKAR
    ZAHRADKAR --- ---
    World’s top climate scientists expect global heating to blast past 1.5C target | Climate crisis | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/world-scientists-climate-failure-survey-global-temperature
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Why the global temperature record streak continues | DW News
    https://youtu.be/f19tOHS8j1Y?si=PIEeg1AbD2NpCZlD
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    We asked top 380 climate scientists what they felt about the future. They are terrified, but determined to keep fighting.

    ‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair | Climate crisis | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2024/may/08/hopeless-and-broken-why-the-worlds-top-climate-scientists-are-in-despair
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    hladovka

    Saturday at the alliance protest #StopptFossileSubventionen in Berlin, the engineer Wolfgang Metzler spoke on the 59th day of his hunger strike @HungernE about the drama of the #Klimakrise and the necessity of protest.

    “Extinction sucks, let’s do something sensible!”

    https://x.com/dennoch_berlin/status/1787388484463849694
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Chaos in the Heavens:
    The Forgotten History of Climate Change

    POLITICIANS AND SCIENTISTS HAVE DEBATED CLIMATE CHANGE FOR CENTURIES IN TIMES OF RAPID CHANGE

    Nothing could seem more contemporary than climate change. Yet, in Chaos in the Heavens, Jean-Baptiste Fressoz and Fabien Locher show that we have been thinking about and debating the consequences of our actions upon the environment for centuries. The subject was raised wherever history accelerated: by the conquistadors in the New World, by the French revolutionaries of 1789, by the scientists and politicians of the nineteenth century, by the European imperialists in Asia and Africa until the Second World War.

    Climate change was at the heart of fundamental debates about colonisation, God, the state, nature, and capitalism. From these intellectual and political battles emerged key concepts of contemporary environmental science and policy. For a brief interlude, science and industry instilled in us the reassuring illusion of an impassive climate. But, in the age of global warming, we must, once again, confront the chaos in the heavens.

    Chaos in the Heavens: The Forgotten History of Climate Change | Verso Books
    https://www.versobooks.com/products/2725-chaos-in-the-heavens
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    What Happens When NASA Loses Eyes on Earth? We’re About to Find Out
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/climate/nasa-satellites-data.html

    When the three orbiters — Terra, Aqua and Aura — are powered down, much of the data they’ve been collecting will end with them, and newer satellites won’t pick up all of the slack. Researchers will either have to rely on alternate sources that might not meet their exact needs or seek workarounds to allow their records to continue.

    With some of the data these satellites gather, the situation is even worse: No other instruments will keep collecting it. In a few short years, the fine features they reveal about our world will become much fuzzier.

    “Losing this irreplaceable data is simply tragic,” said Susan Solomon, an atmospheric chemist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “Just when the planet most needs for us to focus on understanding how we are affected by it, and how we are affecting it, we seem to be disastrously asleep at the wheel.”

    The main area we’re losing eyes on is the stratosphere, the all-important home of the ozone layer.

    ...

    These days, with the rise of the private space industry and the proliferation of satellites around Earth, NASA and other agencies are exploring a different approach to keeping eyes on our planet. The future may lie with smaller, lighter instruments, ones that could be put into orbit more cheaply and nimbly than Terra, Aqua and Aura were back in their day.

    The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is developing such a fleet for monitoring weather and climate. Dr. Loeb and others at NASA are working on a lightweight instrument for continuing their measurements of Earth’s energy balance.

    But for such technologies to be useful, Dr. Loeb said, they have to start flying before today’s orbiters go dark.

    “You need a good, long period of overlap to understand the differences, work out the kinks,” he said. “If not, then it’s going to be really difficult to have trust in these measurements, if we haven’t had a chance to prove them against the current measurements.”



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    MARSHUS
    MARSHUS --- ---
    https://twitter.com/BMcNoldy/status/1787852180604817421

    The ocean heat content in the Atlantic "Main Development Region" (MDR) is now about where it would typically be on July 21.
    Ocean Heat Content
    https://bmcnoldy.earth.miami.edu/tropics/ohc/
    This has already been a topic of casual/concerned conversation at #AMS36HURR.
    ZAHRADKAR
    ZAHRADKAR --- ---
    CHOSIE:
    TADEAS: at uz se bude zachranovat z verejnych penez stavajici zemedelstvi,nebo prechod na nejake udrzitelnejsi, stejne to bude stat hodne penez,protoze ty casy,kdy se dalo masivne produkovat jidlo za malo penez pomalu odchazi. Dividendu fajn klimatu a urodne pudy jsme uz hezky prozrali, je cas calovat ...

    Myslim si, ze to vlady budou spis dal cpat penize do stavajiciho systemu, co povede jeste vice k oligopolizaci, protoze mensi farmari to nedaji. A vlady vetsinou voli rychla a popularni reseni, chleb a hry. Leda ze by lide podporovali mensi farmy prave proto, ze jsou vice eko. My takhle nakupujeme maso a mouku a co jsem se bavil s majiteli,tak to prej dela hodne lidi z okoli. Tak snad 🤞

    Na druhou stranu se zdrazujicim se jidlem mozna vzroste podil samozasobitelstvi. Kdo vi?
    CHOSIE
    CHOSIE --- ---
    TADEAS:
    Farm business profitability had also decreased, with 65% of respondents saying profits are declining or their business may not survive.
    Třeba se dočkáme díky tomu, že tento druh zemědělství upadne, dočkáme změn k udržitelnému hospodaření, které si s správou srážek, teplot, a dalšího umí lépe poradit. No, a nebo to holt daňoví poplatníci zacálují :) Jsem zvědavý jak to bude po letošním "jaru" u nás.
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam