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    COMMANCHEDobyvani vesmiru a kosmonautika 🚀🛰️👩🏼‍🚀
    JIMIQ
    JIMIQ --- ---
    nevím kam jinam s tím
    Ve středu by mohl nastat nejkratší den roku 2025. Zemská rotace v posledních letech mírně zrychluje – VTM.cz
    https://vtm.zive.cz/clanky/ve-stredu-by-mohl-nastat-nejkratsi-den-roku-2025-zemska-rotace-v-poslednich-letech-mirne-zrychluje/sc-870-a-235731/default.aspx
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    TRANCEWARP: ty peníze v tý kampani hrajou spíš symbolickou roli (vzhledem k výši Elonova bohatství), ale Elon rozhodně propálil zbytek svého dobrého jména (před rokem a půl ještě nějaké zbytky byly). Podle mě sám uvěřil své neomylnosti natolik, že si to neuvědomuje...
    NECROMAN
    NECROMAN --- ---
    MAKROUSEK: spíše to vypadá, že těch 85 milionů USD "na převoz" bude utraceno za nějakou "feasibility study", kterou provedou spřátelení analytici, a výledkem bud velké nic, každopádně ty peníze už budou ve správných rukou.
    MAKROUSEK
    MAKROUSEK --- ---
    NECROMAN: To je az tragikomicky, jak si ten clovek nedovede predstavit, ze kdyz Trumpa napadne odvezt raketoplan, tak jim k muzeu nebehne armada, shuttle rozreze a odveze nekam, kde ho zase svari. A mezitim budou prcovnici Smithsonian meditovat o etice.
    TRANCEWARP
    TRANCEWARP --- ---
    LUDO: to Musk chtel setrit, trump nikdy setrit nechtel... chtel akorat ctvrt miliardy na kampan )))
    NECROMAN
    NECROMAN --- ---
    KAERO: komentář k dané věci z Redutu:
    Museum professional here, telling you not to worry quite yet. I have worked at the Smithsonian Institution among other notable museums in the US and have lots of experience including a Master's degree.

    First of all, the Smithsonian owns the shuttle now, not NASA. There aren't any mechanisms by which to strip their ownership. Sure, someone could buy it, but who has the money? And somewhere to put it?

    Any reputable museum would not let any piece out of their collection that could be in any danger - why would you sell a rare painting to someone you know will put an axe through it immediately. Ethics is a HUGE issue in the museum world; everyone in my graduate programme had to take a legal ethics course. There are also standards to be an accredited museum (under a group called the AAM); violations of their rules can get your museum decertified.

    Secondly, there is no way currently to transport the shuttle to Texas. The dedicated 747 was long ago scuttled. An entire new one would have to be built, which I imagine will take most of the money set aside and take a long time to do safely. Roads and bridges cannot tolerate the weight of the shuttle on a transport (like a tractor trailer).

    Do I think it's still a possibility? Yes, of course, but I don't think it's likely. Obvs this is all a very complicated situation with a lot of legal minutia. It's nothing more than (yet another) stupid ass vanity problem created out of thin air to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    SEJDA: tak na pilotované mise to má jisté výhody, třeba nižší přetížení. Uvidíme. Evropská kosmická loď by byla rozhodně cool...
    SEJDA
    SEJDA --- ---
    XCHAOS: Dream chaser uz vyvji pres 15 let a mezitim od pilotovanych letu odstoupili .. Cinani maji taky miniraketoplat a Indie uz taky.
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    Pilotovaný miniraketoplán od Dassaultu?
    VORTEX (Véhicule Orbital Réutilisable de Transport et d'Exploration)
    https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/space/aerospace-vehicles/vortex-vehicule-orbital-reutilisable-de-transport-et-dexploration/
    NECROMAN
    NECROMAN --- ---
    KAERO: na Floridě měli dříve maketu v životní velikosti, než jí vystřídal Atlantis. Tato maketa je nyní v Space Center Houston, asi to GOP senátorům zřejmě nestačí.
    Space Shuttle Independence - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Independence
    Maketa v roce 2010 v KSC, vedle představují novinky z programu Artemis :)

    KAERO
    KAERO --- ---
    ARCHIMEDES: Mozna si Smithsonian mel nejprv poridit senatora.

    No ale aby to bylo ferove rovnomerne rozmistene, tak by spis jeden raketoplan meli strcit nekde do Dakoty. To by byl povyk :)
    Aktualni rozmisteni shuttlu:

    Retired Space Shuttle Locations - NASA
    https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/kennedy/retired-space-shuttle-locations/
    ARCHIMEDES
    ARCHIMEDES --- ---
    LUDO: Když jsem tam byl já, ještě tam stála Enterprise :) (ta je teď na Intrepidu v New Yorku)
    Jako, aby Smithsonian NEMĚL raketoplán, to mi přijde fakt na palici.
    LUDO
    LUDO --- ---
    NECROMAN: Smithsonian tu cenu este poriadne nadstreluje

    " The Smithsonian says Congress removing the shuttle from the Udvar-Hazy Center would be “unprecedented” and would cost an estimated $325 million."
    LUDO
    LUDO --- ---
    NECROMAN: to je uzasne Trumpove setrenie, ten presun Discovery ma stat 85 milionov

    za mna sucasne miesto kde je Discovery je uplne super, hned po vstupe vidi clovek SR-71 a za nim Discovery :)

    NECROMAN
    NECROMAN --- ---
    Novinky, které jsou také součástí Trumpova Big Beautiful Bill

    Discovery is on the move
    The space shuttle Discovery, parked at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum annex in Northern Virginia since it was decommissioned in 2011, will be relocated. Its new home: Houston.
    The bill includes $85 million to pay for its relocation and housing at the Johnson Space Center. The move comes after a push by two Texas Republican senators, John Cornyn and Ted Cruz, who argued Houston’s role in the space shuttle program should be recognized.

    Space launch fees
    Commercial space flight companies like Elon Musk’s SpaceX will have to pay fees for their launches and reentries – phased in over eight years, and intended to help the Federal Aviation Administration’s Office of Commercial Space Transportation keep up with the industry’s rapid growth.
    The fees will start at 25 cents per pound, capped at $30,000 per launch and reach $1.50 per pound, capped at $200,000 per launch, in 2033, with increases tied to the consumer price index after that.
    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/04/politics/seven-little-pieces-trump-agenda-bill
    NECROMAN
    NECROMAN --- ---
    Long-dead satellite emits strong radio signal, puzzling astronomers
    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/29/science/satellite-strange-radio-signal-relay-2
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    striktně vzato spíš astronomie, ale...
    Millions of New Asteroids - How The Vera Rubin Telescope Changes Everything
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TUQRJLfNzs
    THAIGRR
    THAIGRR --- ---
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