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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day
    TADEAS
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    TUHO: the revenge of rcp 8.5
    TUHO
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    TADEAS: jeste bych dodal, ze rcp8.5 je “worst case scenario”
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    longread, tour de geo-force

    Could Climate Change Be More Extreme Than We Think? - The Atlantic
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/03/extreme-climate-change-history/617793/
    KEB
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    DZODZO: IMHO Prchalovi nebo někomu podobnému došlo, že voliči ČSSD a KSČM co by ano mohli ještě sežrat už došli, tak začali cilit na voliče SPD čehož je důsledkem tato imbecilni antizelena a anti EU rétorika. Za mě dobře jen ať se pozerou navzájem
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    Rachael Myrow
    https://twitter.com/rachaelmyrow/status/1419313251075207175?s=19

    Next time you pick up CA-grown carrots or melons, chances are the farmers pumped the water from underground aquifers on a scale that's become unsustainable after too many dry years. "We're not sinking by inches. We're sinking by feet."

    https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/1019483661/without-enough-water-to-go-around-farmers-in-california-are-exhausting-aquifers?t=1627234387858
    TADEAS
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    Linking complexity economics and systems thinking, with illustrative discussions of urban sustainability | Cambridge Journal of Economics | Oxford Academic
    https://academic.oup.com/cje/article/45/4/695/6300006?login=true
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    Thomas Ronge
    https://twitter.com/RemoteLongitude/status/1419182970024480773?s=19

    For perspective: Predicted Antarctic (red) and Greenland (blue) ice mass loss as well as sea level rise (green) in the RCP8.5 scenario vs. observed patterns (solid red, blue, and black lines)

    20210725-192313
    TADEAS
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    Global ice loss accelerating at record rate, study finds
    https://theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/25/global-ice-loss-accelerating-at-record-rate-study-finds

    Over the period studied, the rate of ice loss accelerated by 57%, the paper found, from 0.8tn tonnes a year in the 1990s to 1.2tn tonnes a year by 2017. About half of all the ice lost was from land, which contributes directly to global sea level rises. The ice loss over the study period, from 1994 to 2017, is estimated to have raised sea levels by 35 millimetres.

    The greatest quantities of ice were lost from floating ice in the polar regions, raising the risk of a feedback mechanism known as albedo loss. White ice reflects solar radiation back into space – the albedo effect – but when floating sea ice melts it uncovers dark water which absorbs more heat, speeding up the warming further in a feedback loop

    ...

    Glaciers showed the next biggest loss of ice volume, with more than 6tn tonnes lost between 1994 and 2017, about a quarter of global ice loss over the period. The shrinking of glaciers threatens to cause both flooding and water shortages in some regions, because as large volumes melt they can overwhelm downstream areas, then shrunken glaciers produce less of the steady water flow needed for agriculture.

    Inès Otosaka, report co-author and a PhD researcher at the University of Leeds centre for polar observation and modelling, said: “As well as contributing to global mean sea level rise, mountain glaciers are also critical as a freshwater resource for local communities. The retreat of glaciers around the world is therefore of crucial importance, at both local and global scales.”
    SEJDA
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    DZODZO: vpodstate dela chybu jenom v tom, ze mluvi smerem k EU o zemich (clenech) a ne o regionech, tak jak to EK resi.
    DZODZO
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    lol to je truhlik a to sa uz nedeje? zaplavy, sucho, poziare... tie skody asi plati zazracny dedusko z bezodnej kapsy :)

    "Principiálně nejsme proti větší ekologizaci. Je to správná cesta, avšak musí se respektovat rozdílnost jednotlivých zemí, jejich energetický mix a průmyslová struktura, a nesmí se zničit evropské hospodářství a průmysl."

    Havlíček: Od jádra a plynu neucukneme ani o milimetr - Novinky.cz
    https://www.novinky.cz/domaci/clanek/havlicek-od-jadra-a-plynu-neucukneme-ani-o-milimetr-40367142
    TADEAS
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    Anya Fernald: Regenerative Farming and the Art of Cooking Meat | Lex Fridman Podcast #203
    https://youtu.be/ew8U43IXTfk
    GOJATLA
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    YMLADRIS: Jo, jenže ani ta vrchnost problému nerozumí nebo nemá moc ho řešit. Možná s výjimkou manažerů Exxonu a Shellu, jeden osvícený politik nic nezmůže.
    Nate Hagens má dobrý přehled, např v tomhle rozhovoru, který stojí za shlédnutí celý.
    OMEGA - Underestimating the Challenges of Avoiding a Ghastly Future
    https://youtu.be/Sq-pYBe2mKk?t=2854
    YMLADRIS
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    TUHO: ja v tom jeste vidim tu bezmoc obycejnych lidi. naomi klein pise o "germans and belgians", jako by bylo dulezity, co si oni mysli. germans and belgians jsou ale ve skutecnosti ve stejne pozici jako byli pred sto lety. kdyz se cisar pan rozhodne, ze bude valka, bude valka. v zakopech na Stedry den muzou na sebe nemci a francouzi navzajem zpivat koledy, ale rano zase vstanou a pujdou se nesmyslne strilet, protoze vrchnost ma dojem, ze je to vyhodny.

    stejne tak vrchnost zatim nema pocit, ze je vyhodny stabilizovat klima. vrchnost vzdycky zdrhne nekam do citadely, az se vyjasni, kde to bude nejstabilnejsi. viz jak voytex nize psal, ze merkel kvantova fyzicka kamoska schellnhubera 30 let vidi a vi jak to jde do prdele, ale s kapitanama prumyslu muze tak akorat obedvat, nemuze je nijak zmenit

    cili ano, zasahne to i evropu. vrcholne kapitalisty to ale nezasahne (z jejich modelu nevyplyva ze by jiz nyni bylo zadouci radikalne menit kurz)
    TUHO
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    Cely je to dost o efektivnim umeni vypraveni, presvedcivosti, ziskavani duvery, spravnym fungovani instituci etc. Not easy job .]
    TUHO
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    YMLADRIS: Jj, castej argument je, ze "dopady jsou uz tak ocividny, ze se nedaj ignorovat". A to si myslim, ze uplne tak nefunguje. Ty dopady totiz ukazujou na zmenu klimatu jenom skrze velmi komplikovanej aparat vedecky analyzy. Jinak je to izolovana katastroficka udalost, ktera tady byla vzdycky (a vzdycky bude). No a tim, jak je zkousnuti ty vedecky verze emocionalne narocny, tak ziskava na atraktivite narativ, ze to je vsechno vedeckej komplot, prefukovani a vlastne se nic tak dramatickyho nedeje. Za par let bude stejne doba ledova etc .]
    PER2
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    GOJATLA: species suicide? spis modern civilization collapse

    muhaha:
    In the mid-2030s, every U.S. coast will experience rapidly increasing high-tide floods, when a lunar cycle will amplify rising sea levels caused by climate change.
    Study Projects a Surge in Coastal Flooding, Starting in 2030s | NASA
    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/study-projects-a-surge-in-coastal-flooding-starting-in-2030s
    GOJATLA
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    YMLADRIS: Asi ne. Jen to trochu komplikuje tu představu, že na naše emise doplatí někdo jiný. Climate genocide není až tak projev sobectví, jako spíš další level popření, lidé neví co s tím, doufají, že se jich to nedotkne a třetí svět má prostě smůlu. Když na to upozorníš, tak vyvoláš jen vztek. Pocity viny ale nejsou na místě, ve skutečnosti jsme ale na cestě ke species suicide. Spravedlnost bude.
    YMLADRIS
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    GOJATLA: jak loni shorela ta australie, .. zpusobilo to obrat klimaticke politiky tam? nevim
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    Stuck in the Smoke as Billionaires Blast Off
    https://theintercept.com/2021/07/23/stuck-in-the-smoke-as-billionaires-blast-off/
    Naomi Klein

    ...something dramatic is changing in public perception: a dropping away of the fantasy of safety in the wealthier parts of the world, as well as the beginnings of cracks in the faith that money and technology will find solutions just in the nick of time.

    Climate inaction in the rich world was never really about denial. Belgians and Germans knew climate change was real; they just thought poorer countries would bear the brunt of it. And up until recently, they were right.

    In this summer of fires and floods, it appears to be dawning on many that even this sinister form of climate apartheid is likely an illusion for all but the ultrarich. As Nasheed said, and as the New York Times echoed in an ominous headline overlaid on a photograph of a burning building: “No one is safe.” We are all trapped in this crisis — whether under that relentless pall of smoke, or in a heat that hits like a physical wall, or under rains and winds that will not stop.
    SHEFIK
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    TADEAS: : algoritmicky modely nikdy nepostihnou veskerej chaos sveta. To by musely bejt tak komplexni, jako svet samotnej. Lidstvo bude jeste prekvapeny
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