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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Measuring climate change: It's not just heat, it's humidity | AP News
    https://apnews.com/article/climate-floods-science-environment-and-nature-42655c2d26ebef9f76383a59bd1e6df0

    “Factoring in air moisture along with heat shows that climate change since 1980 is nearly twice as bad as previously calculated, according to their study in Monday’s Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.”


    Trends in surface equivalent potential temperature: A more comprehensive metric for global warming and weather extremes | PNAS
    https://www.pnas.org/content/119/6/e2117832119

    The Earth has warmed by 1.2 ± 0.1 °C since the preindustrial era. The most common metric to measure the ongoing global warming is surface air temperature since it has long and reliable observational records. However, surface air temperature alone does not fully describe the nature of global warming and its impact on climate and weather extremes. Here we show that surface equivalent potential temperature, which combines the surface air temperature and humidity, is a more comprehensive metric not only for the global warming but also for its impact on climate and weather extremes including tropical deep convection and extreme heat waves. We recommend that it should be used more widely in future climate change studies.
    KEB
    KEB --- ---
    TADEAS: to by mě zajímalo taky :-)
    TADEAS
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    PETER_PAN: a plati to i v tom smyslu, ze jak malo je jidlo procesovane nic nevypovida o tom jak je zdrave/nezdrave?
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    TADEAS, TADEAS:

    The Climate Scientist's Quandary
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=_hBYOwDKO9k&feature=youtu.be


    In a powerful conversation with Dr. Alison Green, Professors Bruce Glavovic, Iain White and Tim Smith discuss their controversial paper, calling for a moratorium on climate change research (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/...). One of their key points is that it is now vital to disrupt 'science as usual', which has not been effective in addressing the climate and ecological emergency. Acknowledging that activism is important, they call for an urgent conversation within the science community to address the question 'what IS the role of scientists in trying to renegotiate the science-society contract?'

    Bruce Glavovic is a Professor at Massey University, Iain White is a Professor of Environmental Planning, University of Waikato, and Tim Smith is a Professor and ARC Future Fellow, University of the Sunshine Coast.
    PETER_PAN
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    PETER_PAN: K te soli. Obecne tvrzeni ze je to problem - ano.
    "One of the two most prominent dietary risks for disability in the world are diets high in sodium."

    A comparative risk assessment of burden of disease and injury attributable to 67 risk factors and risk factor clusters in 21 regions, 1990–2010: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2010
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4156511/
    Lancet. 2012 Dec 15; 380(9859): 2224–2260.

    A presto sul pouzivam kazdy den.
    PETER_PAN
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    PETER_PAN: Ty vegansky nahrazky to nemaji nezbytne.

    Sul a hypertenze je relevantni tema. Ale muzes mit klidne vysoky prijem soli i kdyz varis ze zakladnich surovin a zadny processed food najis. Zaroven ale sul je kriticky nezbytna pro fungovani lidskeho organismu. Uz na tomhle prikladu muzes videt ze to ze neco neco obsahuje nebo ne, jeste nic neznamena. Vzdy jde o kontext, mnozstvi, individualni sensitivitu.

    BTW: WHO doporuceni je cca 5 g soli den. Data ale ukazuji ze do 10-13 g soli den je to u normalniho zdraveho clovek v pohode.
    INK_FLO
    INK_FLO --- ---
    PETER_PAN: a ten fakt, že ty veganský náhražky mají často ještě víc soli z nich taky nedělá nezdravou věc?
    PETER_PAN
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    INK_FLO: "když je v něčem spousta soli, cukru, konzervantů a vydrží to půl roku, aniž by to změnilo chuť nebo vzhled, tak je pravděpodobný, že to spíš nebude moc zdrav"

    A tohle je prave ten omyl. Zadna takova implikace neplati a je to jen tvuj pocit. Pro konkretni priklad to tak muze byt a pro jiny nemusi.
    Jablko vydrzi ve sklepe taky pul roku, proc asi? Protoze je kouzelny? Ne, protoze obsahuje koznervanty, treba i kyselinu benzoovou a dalsi baterii latek a evolucne vyvinutych konceptu ktery zaridi ze vydrzi pul roku.
    INK_FLO
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    PETER_PAN: tzn. že ta NOVA classification je neplatná?....respektive vyvozování závěrů, že "ultra-processed food" je nezdravé/neekologické atd.? Nejsem v tom expert a očividně toho víš víc. Mám tam tu laickou rovnici "když je v něčem spousta soli, cukru, konzervantů a vydrží to půl roku, aniž by to změnilo chuť nebo vzhled, tak je pravděpodobný, že to spíš nebude moc zdravý" (u vegan burgerů, párku apod. je často obsah soli ještě větší než u masných verzí, třeba 2 - 3g)...zároveň ale jelikož tyhle vegan junk food občas jím, tak tvou argumentaci vítám :-)
    PETER_PAN
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    Ten pristup je rezignace na poznatelnost sveta. V zasade se da shrnout jako chemofobie kombinovana s negramotnosti.

    Co nevyctes z techno 2 obrazku:
    a] Ze vetsina tech komponent ma shodou okolnosti nejaky kod typu E a je nekde jinde pouzivana jako aditivum.
    b] Ze latky odvozene od tech prirodnich (treba Carboxymethyl cellulose) nemaji obecne horsi, nebo podezrelejsi vlastnosti nez ty puvodni latky od kterych byly odvozeny. Tzn. ze neplati obecne ze varianta nativne se vyskytujici v prirode je lepsi nez jeji derivat ktery ma nejake specificka pozadovane vlastnosti.

    PETER_PAN
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    INK_FLO: Ten clanek je uplne mimo. Je to porad stejna argumentace.
    "... including methylcellulose. , maltodextrin, and glucose powdered syrup."

    Neni zadny takovy duvod proc by jidlo nemelo obsahovat inertni methylcellulose (na urovni vlakniny, lepsi je teda carboxy methylcellulose jako rozpustna vlaknina), nebo maltodextrin (nejlepsi cukr, davam si do jogurtu treba 40g - pomalejsi nez kratke sacharidy, rychlejsi nez skrob) nebo glucose powdered syrup.
    INK_FLO
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    PETER_PAN:

    The problem is that while it is possible to eat a healthy vegetarian diet (with care and vitamin B12 supplementation) many plant-based meat substitutes or analogues, as they are known in the industry, are not healthy at all. They fall into the category of ultra-processed foods, first identified by Brazilian academics as part of the NOVA classification. UPFs are now widely accepted by food experts as unhealthy and possibly addictive, and are blamed for the increased incidence of obesity and poor health worldwide.

    NOVA divides all food into four categories. “Unprocessed or minimally processed food” is for raw ingredients such as fruits, vegetables and meat. The second category, cooking ingredients, covers the likes of flour and oil, while the third category, processed foods, includes cheese, for example, tofu, or bread if made with only flour, yeast, salt and water.

    The final category is highly processed foods, products that generally come in packages and include ingredients and processes you wouldn’t use at home, and, according to NOVA, “in particular flavors, color sweeteners, emulsifiers, and other additives used to imitate the sensory qualities and preparations of unprocessed or slightly processed foods and their preparations.” culinary or to mask the undesirable qualities of the final product.” In other words, products—I hesitate to call them food—are manipulated to trick us, to make ingredients look more appetizing, last longer, or somehow better than they actually are.

    While grilled chicken breast can be considered lightly processed, or perhaps “processed” if you include a little salt and oil, these “roasted chicken breasts” are extremely highly processed, containing over 30 ingredients, including methylcellulose. , maltodextrin, and glucose powdered syrup. It’s not an appetizer, but it’s not just a matter of taste, UPF not only fools our tastes but also confuses our bodies, stimulating hormones that encourage us to overeat.

    Yet somehow, the food industry is determined to send the message that plant-based products are intrinsically healthy and beneficial. Even the word vegan has been sidelined, perhaps because it has connotations of abstinence and a dinner that tastes like hair shirts. These days it’s all about “plant”. Tesco has named its plant-based collection Plant Chef, chose M&S for its vegetarian cuisine, Morrisons has Plant Revolution, and Waitrose’s is called PlantLife. Asda chose a plant basis. The other day, I came across some sauce proudly labeled “vegetarian”. Yes, the sauce, as if the sauce was not made exclusively from plants. What then? Vegetable jam? A vegetarian apple?

    But please, don’t kid yourself that this is a healthy food. It is junk. While health experts urge us to eat more vegetables, that’s not what they mean. It means real vegetables, you know, cabbage, carrots, broccoli. vegetable type.

    Why vegan meat substitutes are the worst junk food of all - Duche The Dector
    https://duchetridao.com/why-vegan-meat-substitutes-are-the-worst-junk-food-of-all/
    PETER_PAN
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    INK_FLO: Ne, to jak moc je jidlo procesovane nic nevypovida o tom jak je zdrave/nezdrave nebo jake ma/nema ekologicke externality.
    INK_FLO
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    Did you know this?! The food industry is determined to sell us the idea that vegan food is healthy and natural, when actually some 'plant based' products are ultra processed and unhealthy and potentially addictive.

    They’re Doing WHAT To Vegan Food?!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouHSeZsicY
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    DNF: ja tu nasi farmu chci vyuzit jako dukladnou zdokumentovanou (s lidma co pisou clanky) case study tykajici se regenerativniho managementu produkcniho ekosystemu a ilustrovat na tom nektery slepy mista toho miliantniho plant-based uvazovani
    TADEAS
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    DNF: stanu se (opet) veganem, aby americani mohli frakovat... cool
    GOJATLA
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    Revealed: The 11 slides that finally convinced Boris Johnson about global warming - Carbon Brief
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/revealed-the-11-slides-that-finally-convinced-boris-johnson-about-global-warming

    Klimatické školení, které prý přesvědčilo Borise Jonsona...
    DNF
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    Rapid global phaseout of animal agriculture has the potential to stabilize greenhouse gas levels for 30 years and offset 68 percent of CO2 emissions this century
    https://journals.plos.org/climate/article?id=10.1371/journal.pclm.0000010

    borci jsou ovsem propagatori a zaroven pracujou ve vyrobe "ultraprumysloveho" "masa", takze na tom maji svuj zajem.
    Vzpomnel jsem si, jak psal petrpan, ze mu soucasna zivocisna vyroba prijde jeste malo prumyslova.
    SHEFIK
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    #doomed #fullRead

    Extreme heat in oceans ‘passed point of no return’ in 2014 | Oceans | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/01/extreme-heat-oceans-passed-point-of-no-return-high-temperatures-wildlife-seas

    In some hotspots, extreme temperatures occur 90% of the time, severely affecting wildlife. More than 90% of the heat trapped by greenhouse gases is absorbed by the ocean, which plays a critical role in maintaining a stable climate.

    ...

    You should care about turtles, seabirds and whales, but even if you don’t, the two most lucrative fisheries in the US, lobster and scallops, are in those exact spots,” said Van Houtan, while 14 fisheries in Alaska have recently been declared federal disasters.
    JINDRICH
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    Polský důl Turów už nemá pravomocné rozhodnutí EIA, tedy posouzení vlivů těžby na životní prostředí, které mělo být podkladem pro povolení těžby až do roku 2044. Rozhodl o tom dnes po odvolání právníků @FrankBold_PL polský soud, který zrušil tzv. “doložku okamžité vykonatelnosti” pro rozhodnutí EIA. Rozhodnutí soudu představuje další krok k tomu, že těžba v dole Turów bude nelegální i podle polského práva. Úřady chtěly zrušenou doložkou celý proces povolování další těžby urychlit.


    Důl Turów těží bez pravomocného posouzení vlivů na životní prostředí. Polský soud potvrdil porušení zákona | Frank Bold
    https://frankbold.org/zpravodaj/kategorie/aktualne/dul-turow-tezi-bez-pravomocneho-posouzeni-vlivu-na-zivotni-prostredi-polsky-soud-potvrdil-poruseni-
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