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    TUHODezinformace o klimatu // Rage Against the Fossil Machine
    Jedním ze zásadních důvodů, proč je klimatická změna tak obtížné téma je obrovské množství dezinformací, které ho obklopuje. Sociologové identifikovali široké dezinformační hnutí, které je z části organizované fosilním průmyslem. Množství empirických důkazů ukazuje, že fosilní průmysl ročně vynakládá obrovské množství prostředků za cílem oddálit nebo neutralizovat politiky směřující k regulaci spotřeby fosilních paliv. Jak se ale v takové debatě vyznat? Jaká je česká debata v kontextu světa? Ale hlavně jaké subjekty se do dezinformací zapojují, jaké techniky a jaké prostředky používají k neutralizaci veřejné diskuze.
    rozbalit záhlaví
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    Climate Change Debate: Bjørn Lomborg and Andrew Revkin | Lex Fridman Podcast #339
    https://youtu.be/5Gk9gIpGvSE
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    TADEAS: No, tak ty dve vety spolu asi celkem souvisej .] Je tam jeste vic lahudek?
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    41m "I trust Lomborg", "I don't lnow what environment is"

    Jordan Peterson: Life, Death, Power, Fame, and Meaning | Lex Fridman Podcast #313
    https://youtu.be/sY8aFSY2zv4
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    Šokující studie? Pro klimatologii vůbec ne. :: Radim Tolasz
    https://www.tolasz.cz/news/sokujici-studie-pro-klimatologii-vubec-ne/
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    TUHO: LINKOS: Jinak tohle Watts tlaci dlouho, k jeho pocte treba priznat, ze rozjel masivni evaluaci meteorologickych stanic. Problem jaksi je v tom, ze ta zmena nebyla po prezkoumani nijak velka

    UQx DENIAL101x 2.4.2.1 Heat in the City
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pidRKmq2iGI
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    LINKOS: TUHO: Jinak clanek od Anthonyho Wattse je zde

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/07/27/new-surface-stations-report-released-its-worse-than-we-thought/

    A origos paper na Heartland institute (jinak spolu s CATO institute asi nejproflaklejsi klima-dezinformacni hub/think tank)
    https://www.heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/publications/2022_Surface_Station_Report.pdf
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    LINKOS: Ty vole, tohle je asi tak sokujici jako ze vakciny zpusobujou autismus.
    Mimochodem, nemuze to nekdo odemnknout? Tohle se opakuje stale dokola, zrovna jsem premejslel, co tedka asi tak Kaiser pise...
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    Šokující studie klimaskeptika: měřící stanice teplot jsou na špatných místech - Echo24.cz
    https://echo24.cz/a/SmfFy/studie-klimaskeptik-watts-merici-stanice-tepla-na-spatnych-mistech-tepelne-ostrovy
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    TUHO: Jiri Svoboda po druhe...

    Jaká nás čeká klimatická budoucnost? „Ještě se nikdo neupekl. A ani neupeče,“ tvrdí vědec zabývající se historií planetárního klimatu – Muži v Česku
    https://www.muzivcesku.cz/jaka-nas-ceka-klimaticka-budoucnost-jeste-se-nikdo-neupekl-a-ani-neupece-tvrdi-vedec-zabyvajici-se-historii-planetarniho-klimatu/
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    Checkuju si tedka nejake zdroje Vaclava Klause "Modra nikoliv zelena planeta" a je to docela vtipny. Na to, ze rika jak neni v klimatologii konsenzus, tak neni schopnej citovat v podstate zadnyho klimatologa. Z padesati zdroju jsou to vsechno ekonomove, zadni prirodni vedci. Jediny klimatolog je tam Patrick Michaels, potom cituje Indura Goklanyho jako klimatologa (ve skutecnosti elektricky inzenyr) a Jiriho Svobodu (ve skutecnosti matematik, ale teda nadsenej amaterskej klimatolog bez vzdelani).

    Tak si ctu rozhovor s Jirim Svobodou.

    Svoboda v rozhovoru tvrdi:
    "Chabibull Abdusamatov měl dokonce asistenta, jenž se jmenuje Ilja Usoskin a nyní pracuje ve finském Oulu. A tihle dva se vsadili o deset tisíc dolarů, dokdy budou první příznaky globálního ochlazení patrné.
    A dokdy se vsadili?
    Usoskin tvrdí, že to bude do roku 2015, podle Abdusamatova to bude v podstatě teď, tedy do roku 2011 nebo 2012."
    Jiří Svoboda: Globální ochlazení nastoupí do několika let - Ekolist.cz
    https://ekolist.cz/cz/publicistika/rozhovory/jiri-svoboda-globalni-ochlazeni-nastoupi-do-nekolika-let

    Usoskin je celkem vyznacnej astrofyzik s morem publikaci, tak je mi takovej kix zvlastni. Pisu mu a odpovida:

    a] Nikdy nebyl asistent Abdusamatova
    b] Nikdy s nim neuzavrel sazku
    c] Nikdy se s nim nepotkal
    d] Nadto nesouhlasi s tim, jake Abdusamatov pouziva metody, i to jakym zpusobem exhibuje v mediich
    e] Nikdy nepredpovedel globalni ochlazovani
    f] Globalni oteplovani bude pokracovat, i s nizsi aktivitou Slunce, protoze radiacni pusobeni sklenikovych plynu nizsi aktivitu prebije.
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    Neco starsiho k solarnimu minimu a pracem Zharkove

    This time around, the myth appears to have been sparked by a Sky News interview with Northumbria University mathematics professor Valentina Zharkova. The story was quickly echoed by the Daily Mail, International Business Times, Sputnik News, Metro, Tru News, and others. Zharkova was also behind the ‘mini ice age’ stories in 2015, based on her research predicting that the sun will soon enter a quiet phase.
    The most important takeaway point is that the scientific research is clear – were one to occur, a grand solar minimum would temporarily reduce global temperatures by less than 0.3°C, while humans are already causing 0.2°C warming per decade.

    The 'imminent mini ice age' myth is back, and it's still wrong | Climate crisis | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jan/09/the-imminent-mini-ice-age-myth-is-back-and-its-still-wrong
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    K mezi klimaskeptiky oblibene teorii Henrika Svensmarka, ze kosmicke zareni ma vyznamny klimaticky vliv (skrze formovani mraku)

    The most famous mechanism for an indirect influence of the Sun on climate is the cosmic-ray-cloud connection, aka Svensmark's mechanism, which suggests induced/mediated nucleation of cloud condensation nuclei by atmospheric ionization caused by cosmic rays. This mechanism, called also the clear-sky mechanism, has been extensively studied recently, in vitro, in the dedicated laboratory experiments CLOUD and SKY. It was shown that the effect does exist but is too small to play a notable role in the climate. Thus, this mechanism is hardly a strong player.

    https://mwenb.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Blog-Ilya-Usoskin-def.pdf
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    a tohle je dokonaly lord monckton jako novy charakter sashi vohena ,))

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=248&v=w833cAs9EN0&feature=emb_title
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    slusnej naklep danielovi kaiserovi za clanek o ceskosaskem svycarsku. je vtipny jak je ten clovek mimo neustale (covid, klima, environmenalismus). ale nejaky sebereflexe se asi clovek nedocka

    Přihlásit se k Facebooku | Facebook
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid09WJWF5esQqdCfYRhZt4woRHBM7CU77uUHbvU93McyZePFj3oZ86XfWPHM6ce9QaQl&id=100001618623197
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    Nevite nekdo naky vysvetleni, kde se vzal Lomborg tady "exkluzivne" ve FINMAGU?
    Na koho tam jsou kde jaky vazby?
    Ma tam pravidelne clanek kazdy mesic.
    Celkove mu tam otiskli vic nez (!!!) 30 clanku.

    Když přijde Putin, zelená jde stranou. Vyspělý svět konečně přiznal barvu | Finmag.cz
    https://finmag.penize.cz/politika/436003-kdyz-prijde-putin-zelena-jde-stranou-vyspely-svet-konecne-priznal-barvu
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    zajimal by me podil trollu (90 procent?)

    Vedro, že?!🥵🌡🥵 A nemuselo by... - Greenpeace Česká republika | Facebook
    https://www.facebook.com/55876739776/posts/10160246981949777/
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    Vavra na Crichtonovi

    Daniel Vavra - Poslední měsíc se zase nějak roztrhl pytel... | Facebook
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid031a5yZBZfMqfsi4KWCNX2GsjBeTXmhDvdTRKMQX6Zjuh7pR9eQdLZTUPdKAErk6exl&;id=1503730670
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    TUHO: A background CEI:

    “Among the sponsors for the Game of Thrones-themed gala were groups that have long been aligned with fossil fuel interests, including the Charles Koch Institute and the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers. The fuel and petrochemical group, which lobbies for gasoline producers, pushed to weaken car fuel economy standards, one of the Obama administration’s landmark climate policies,” The New York Times reported.19
    The program included support from major corporations like Google and Amazon that, despite having made commitments to address climate change in their official public relations strategies, still support CEI. A Google representative said their support of the gala did not necessarily mean it supports climate denial. “We’ve been extremely clear that Google’s sponsorship doesn’t mean that we endorse that organization’s entire agenda,” said a spokesman. A spokeswoman for Amazon, said the company “may not agree with all of the positions of each organization,” but believed that its $15,000 contribution to the event “will help advance policy objectives aligned with our interests.” Sponsors listed below:20
    ...
    In a October, 2000 memo, Fred L. Smith thanked Ms. Maura Payne of RJ Reynolds Tobacco for “RJR‘s continued support” and adds “your personal involvement has meant a lot to our battles over the last 16 years.” The letter concludes, “I know you have contributed between $20,000 to $50,000 over the years.”31
    In an October, 1994 memo, Smith thanked Philip Morris for a contribution of $150,000. “Philip Morris’s contribution will enable CEI to expand our efforts in well-established areas as our Human Cost of Regulation program and other regulatory reform projects,” the memo read.32


    Competitive Enterprise Institute - DeSmog
    https://www.desmog.com/competitive-enterprise-institute/
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    Neco z praci Competitive Enterprise Institutu - "They call it polution. We call it life"

    Global Warming - "Glaciers"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq_Bj-av3g0
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    TUHO: Kontext?koukat na nebe nestačí?
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    Tentokrat z opacny strany barikady?

    Together with one of her Ph.D. supervisors, JCU marine biologist Philip Munday, Dixson pioneered research into the effects on fish of rising CO2 levels in the atmosphere, which cause the oceans to acidify. In a series of studies published since 2009 they showed that acidification can disorient fish, lead them to swim toward chemical cues emitted by their predators, and affect their hearing and vision. Dixson’s later work focused on coral reef ecology, the subject of her Science paper.
    The whistleblowers, an international team of academic researchers in marine biology, had long questioned the very big effect sizes and unusually small variances in data reported by the pair. In a 2020 Nature paper, the whistleblowers reported they could not reproduce several of the claims in their own studies. Later that year, four of them decided to ask for a misconduct investigation into the work, as Science reported. They directed the request at three funding agencies that had backed studies by Munday and Dixson, including the U.S. National Institutes of Health and NSF, but those agencies apparently asked UD and Georgia Tech to investigate.
    In its undated draft report, UD’s 3-person investigative committee concludes Dixson simply did not have enough time to collect the vast amount of data described in the 2014 Science paper, co-
    authored with Georgia Tech marine ecologist Mark Hay. It purported to show that overfished, seaweed-covered reefs in Fiji fail to attract juvenile individuals of 15 fish and three coral species.

    Science | AAAS
    https://www.science.org/content/article/star-marine-ecologist-committed-misconduct-university-says?
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