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    LAUNCHERElektromobily 🏞️ 🛣️ 🏎️ 🚗 🚐 🚙 🚌 🚒 🚛 🔌
    Vitejte v boardu Elektromobily!

    Prosim dodrzujme stejna rules*, jako napriklad v obdobnych subreddits na Redditu.

    1) Zadne vulgarity.
    2) Toto je SFW board.
    3) Bez ICE prosim, na to jsou na Nyxu vhodnejsi boardy.
    4) Toto neni vhodny board pro napr. vase culture wars proti EV.
    5) Board je urceny primarne pro majitele EV a zajemce o nakup EV. Omladina "az mi bude 18+" tez vitana, fandim vam. Chapu nutkani napsat nam, ze si to nikdy nekoupite, nebo jeste nekoupite, ale prosim vyuzijte jine boards. Uvazujte, jak by to tu vypadalo, kdyby nam sem tohle napsal kazdy z uzivatelu Nyxu.
    6) Idealne drzme diskuzi v pratelskem duchu.
    7) Mit nazor na CN automobilky, Elona Muska, temnou minulost nekterych DE a IT automobilek, Henryho Forda I atd, muzete. Ale prosim snazte se neprekrocit bod #6, nebo dokonce bod #1. Pro tyto ucely prosim vyhledejte boardy vhodne pro ostrou socialni nebo politickou kritiku.

    Diky za pochopeni 🤦‍♂️ Pozor, druhé varování může být za 7 dnů RO i hůře.

    Prejeme prijemnou zabavu 🚗🔋 a hlavne bezpecne kilometry za volantem / s autopilotem.

    * Work in progress
    rozbalit záhlaví
    W_NOICE78
    W_NOICE78 --- ---
    DOCKINEZ: NIGHTHUNTER: kazdopadne jen tak sleva 600k je je dost a to na tom budou vsichni jeste v profitu ne?
    NIGHTHUNTER
    NIGHTHUNTER --- ---
    DOCKINEZ: takových akcí je teď asi všude víc, protože to je stará verze (jen 220 kW), která má tudíž starý a žravý motory, bez možnosti předehřevu baterky a s infotainmnent verze 3.x, kterej se nedá upgradovat na aktuální verzi 4...
    nový Enyaq RS s 250 kW je proti tomu mnohem lepší auto - ale ano, i tenhle může hodně lidem stačit a je otázka, jestli ten nový stojí za příplatek cca 50 % ceny (zas jako o půlku lepší auto to asi není)
    DOCKINEZ
    DOCKINEZ --- ---
    Akce u nás v nákupáku. S 200k dotací by ta cena byla ještě hezčí.

    Naživo hezký, vo to by nebylo. A cena oukej. Jenže málo platný, je to fakt malý. Nicméně pro single člověka nebo bezdětný pár asi ideálka.

    LAUNCHER
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    JYRKA: Jak jsem videl Verge, hned jsem cekal nejakou lumparnu :-) Autor si na zaklade tohoto vysnil nejakou svoji anti-SD realitu. Obecne NHTSA je SD velmi naklonena (protoze jim proste jde o bezpecnost a zaroven je tlak administrativy na inovujici USA) a take se jim libi, ze od Waymo, Tesla atd dostavaji k incidentum transparentne balik dat.

    Vypichl bych z toho hlavne to, ze je opravdu potreba ohlidat vyhnuti se motorkari. Jsou zaroven zranitelni, zaroven se je nedari uplne idealne identifikovat a zaroven umi byt v provozu velmi rychli.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/14/business/self-driving-cars-waymo-zoox-regulators-investigating/index.html
    TOFI
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    LAUNCHER
    LAUNCHER --- ---
    Has Mercedes ruined the G-Wagen?
    https://youtu.be/kH-tdhVnPVs?si=_pR_z8k-HOXwT0u5
    JYRKA
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    Zajimave cteni:

    For self-driving cars, the free ride is over - The Verge
    https://www.theverge.com/24157228/robotaxi-nhtsa-investigations-waymo-tesla-zoox
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    I think the second thing is, of course, there is a backlash from the fossil fuel industry, including some car companies, because, even today, I think EVs have taken 1.8m barrels of oil off the road per day. Right? That’s enough that the global oil industry is suddenly seeing what used to look like a minor inconvenience in the future is suddenly a real and present danger. Now, we saw the ability of the tobacco industry to lobby against tobacco restrictions. The oil industry is vastly more powerful than tobacco ever was. And so, on top of the sort of cultural thing that I’ve described, you have then got a genuine concern and lobbying efforts.

    The Carbon Brief Interview: Octopus Energy’s Greg Jackson  - Carbon Brief
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/the-carbon-brief-interview-octopus-energys-greg-jackson/
    PEPAZZ
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    PEPAZZ: full report
    InfluenceMap Automakers and Climate Policy Advocacy: A Global Analysis
    https://influencemap.org/report/Automakers-and-Climate-Policy-Advocacy-A-Global-Analysis-27906
    PEPAZZ
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    🚦NEW From @InfluenceMap: How Automaker Lobbying Threatens the Global Transition to Electric Vehicles

    Analysis of 15 of the worlds’ largest automakers outside China shows that all except @Tesla have advocated against policy promoting #ElectricVehicles.
    #alwaysbecharging

    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    Souhlas
    BMW's CEO Zipse is Desperate

    BMW Zipse continues to lobby against the EU-regulated end of ICE sales in 2035 "From our point of view, the introduction of this ban was naive. We made this clear right from the start and had to take a lot of public criticism for it. But now many players are opening their eyes",

    "Wanting to regulate markets on such a scale ultimately makes everything worse: the competitive position, the ecological impact and job security."

    "We are currently only experiencing a prelude. If the regulations were to remain as they are, this would have blatant consequences for the industrial base in Europe. According to our estimates, value creation in the automotive industry would roughly halve - with a corresponding impact on employment."

    He continued: "If you look at the facts, you will see that an adjustment is unavoidable. With the end in 2035, an entire industry has become vulnerable to blackmail. Because every international competitor, every supplier knows that they are dependent on a single technology," said Zipse.

    The German automotive industry is up to its neck in water as it realizes that its electric cars are not generating the global demand from customers that it has always predicted. The result is that they are now increasingly losing market share and profits are shrinking. For this reason, instead of working on better electric cars, they are trying to overturn the end of the ICE in Europe in 2035 and spreading fear that people vote in the upcoming EU election for all who want to stop change and the reduction of CO2 emissions.

    Even if this succeeds, the crisis in the German automotive industry will continue to deepen because without competitive electric cars and autonomous vehicles, there is no long-term justification for them to exist.

    But instead of investing in innovation and competitiveness, the head of BWM can think of nothing better than stoking fears and trying to change the regulations on the back of climate change.

    Zipse's argument that the ICE audit makes everything worse is not only incomprehensible but fundamentally wrong. How can a regulation that stipulates the end of CO2 emissions in 2035 be bad for the environment?

    Zipse "To this day, the assumption persists that the maximum ecological effect will be achieved if the new car market is regulated. But what about the more than 25 million existing vehicles with combustion engines in Europe?" This stock of older vehicles is the main emitter, but it is not affected by the regulation at all. This is why fuels should be subject to a "more demanding CO2 target",

    This argument is a further distraction from the real problem. Just because the existing fleet, which is already reducing CO2 emissions and will do so at an accelerated rate in the future, it makes no sense at all to deduce that new car sales should therefore continue to be permitted with CO2 emissions. What he obviously tries to endorse are e-fuels that has been proven to be a solution that will never work. How twisted Zipse's thoughts must be to believe that he can mislead the public!

    Sometimes I wonder if Zipse believes his own misleading statements or is deliberately trying to distract the public from the real problems of the legacy automotive industry and BMW.

    In this interview it became finally and for everyone visible that BMW is desperate and not competitive.
    PEPAZZ
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    Bateriové uložiště energie, baterie do autobusů, kamionů a aut, kovy do OZE a odsun od fosilních paliv je to nejekologičtější a nejšetrnější řešení ze všech možných.

    Dopad těžby kovů na biodiverzitu a CO2 je velmi malý v porovnání s fosilem či jinými aktivitami.

    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    K bateriím a ekologii. Baterie jsou kovy, převážně lithium.
    Těžba kovů má malý dopad na biodiverzitu a CO2. Lithium téměř nulový.
    Z těžby kovů v roce 2021 bylo lithium 0,004%. Vynásobme 100x, což by stačilo na 350M EV ročně a bylo by to jen 0,4%! A kovy se též recyklují♻️

    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    K bateriím a ekologii #2.
    Z těžby kovů v roce 2022 byl kobalt 0,006%. 98% kobaltu je odpadní produkt těžby mědi a niklu. 55% jde na🔋45% do 🏭 z toho 10% na rafinaci 🛢️🦖. Kobalt se v bateriích snižuje, ale celková spotřeba se asi zvýší. 2040 odhad je 0,012% celkové těžby

    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    KUTAS: nemůžeš tam mít všechno už tohle muselo dat slušně práce s zdroji.
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    RSZ: presne tak taky jezdnim na motorce(e moto) a auta predjizdim jen z duvodu toho desnyho smradu co z vejfuku jde. Imho dokud clovek nejede v doprave/zacpe na kole/motorce tak si tohle vubec neuvedomuje.
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    LAUNCHER: nemalujme si že diesel s funkčním egr a DPF je nejaka lahoda, oxidu dusnych ma jak prase a častic ma taky mraky jen jsou to ty menší ktere dpfkem projdou, nedelejme si iluze o všespásnych DPFkach pls.
    W_NOICE78
    W_NOICE78 --- ---
    #HLOG_1 Tesla Model Y LR | Nejprodávanějším autem světa do Chorvatska | 4K
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUzLv3nzuYk
    W_NOICE78
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    RATTKIN
    RATTKIN --- ---
    KUTAS: Ahoj, 70% je v česku, světově je to méně, ano.
    Nabíjet se dá v podstatě ze zásuvky 230V, ta infrastruktura je fakt nic. Problém je že položit jeden kabel trvá v česku 14 měsíců a osazení nabíječky dalších 5 let, ale to není problém elektromobilů jako takových, spíš naší byrokracie.
    Možná proto je z-box soběstačný a nemá žádnou přípojku.
    Já jsem dělal na videu jen překlad a dabing, ale souhlasím s tím. Už nemáme čas na vodění čecháčků za ručičku, v ekologické, ani ekonomickém smyslu. Doufám že zákaz spalováků nebude nutný, ale zatím to vypadá spíš na naše vystoupení z EU.
    LAUNCHER
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    LAUNCHER: To je krasny:

    "The first buyer for the Alice was Cape Air, a regional airline serving the Northeastern United States as well as the Caribbean.[31] In August 2021, Deutsche Post announced that it had ordered 12 aircraft for use by DHL to transport cargo, with delivery planned from 2024.[32][33] In April 2022, Eviation stated that Cape Air ordered 75 planes.[34] In September 2022, GlobalX Airlines ordered 50 aircraft, with deliveries starting in 2027.[35] In January 2023, Mexican regional carrier Aerus ordered 30 aircraft.[36][importance?]"

    Rad bych se s tim nekde po EU regionalne proletel. Snad to tu casem bude mit i nekdo pro pasazery, nejen DHL :-)
    LAUNCHER
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    RATTKIN: Dekuji za opravu. No nepotesil jsi me. Ach jo.
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam