a jeste predtim:

Judging and Perceiving refer to the S/N and T/F dichotomies just described. J or P records which of the two dichotomies is used for dealing with the external world. J types tend to like a planned and organized approach to life and prefer to have things settled. P types tend to like a flexible and spontaneous approach to life and prefer to keep their options open. (The terminology may be misleading for some—the term "Judging" does not necessarily imply "judgmental", and "Perceiving" does not necessarily imply "perceptive" in the usual sense of the word.)

In J-types, the preferred judging function (T or F) is extraverted (displayed in the outer world). J-types tend to prefer a step-by-step (left brain: parts to whole) approach to life, relying on external rules and procedures, and preferring quick closure. The preferred perceiving function (S or N) is introverted. On the other hand, in P-types the preferred perceiving function is extraverted, and the preferred judging function is introverted. This can result in a more spontaneous approach to life (right brain: whole to parts), relying on subjective judgments, and a desire to leave all options open.

Introverts turn their dominant function inward, so the J or P indicates their auxiliary function. In INTP, for example, the P says that the perceptive function, in this case N, is the individual's extraverted function, so to most observers, the individual appears to be an iNtuitive; the INTP's dominant function is the T, but it is introverted, and thus harder for others to observe. (Socionics, a personality theory similar to MBTI, follows the opposite notation for introverts; the J/P designation in this theory refers to the dominant function for all types.)

docela dobry rozbor toho o cem se tady bavime:

http://www.dec.co.th/mbti_explanation.htm

Cognitive function dynamics in each type

In each type, all four of the cognitive, or mental functions, which are sensing, intuition, thinking and feeling, are present and arranged in a different order. The type acronym is used as a quick way to figure out this order, which is slightly different in introverts and extraverts. An important point to remember is that the first and last letter of the type are used as guides to figure out the order of the middle two letters, which are the main priority. The chart below this section has the dynamics worked out for each type.

Extraverts

If the first letter of the type is an E, such as ESTJ, then the dominant function (one of the middle two letters) is extraverted. The next step is to figure out to which one this is applied to. This is simple for extroverts, since the last letter tells us right away which function is extroverted. So if the last letter is a P, then the extroverted dominant will be the second letter, the perceiving function, Sensing in this example, and if it is a J, then it will be the third letter, the judging function - in this case, Thinking. In either case, the auxiliary function will be introverted. Thus, we can tell that the first or dominant function in the ESTJ is extraverted thinking, and the second is introverted sensing. The third function is the opposite of the second, and in this case is extraverted intuition, and the fourth is introverted feeling.

Introverts

If the first letter of the type is an I, such as in INFP, then the dominant is introverted. To figure out which of the middle two letters this applies to, remember that the last letter indicates which function is extraverted. Therefore, it is the other function that the dominant "I" will apply to. So if the last letter is a P, then the extroverted auxiliary function will be the second letter, the perceiving function (iNtuiting in this case), and the introverted dominant function will be the third letter, (the judging function, Feeling in this example). If it is a J, then the third letter, which is the judging function will be the extroverted auxiliary, and the second letter, the perceiving function will be the introverted dominant function. (The process may seem backwards and slightly confusing for introverts.) Already it is possible to tell that the INFP has an introverted dominant, and since their perceiving function (iNtuition) is extraverted, the dominant must be the judging function (Feeling). Thus the dominant function is introverted feeling, and the second function (the auxiliary) is extraverted intuition.

The four functions alternate in orientation. For introverts, the sequence would proceed introverted, extraverted, introverted, extraverted. The third function (the tertiary) is the opposite of the second, and the fourth is the opposite of the first. For an INFP, with introverted feeling and extraverted intuition, the third function is introverted sensing, and the fourth is extraverted thinking.

a dale viz ta funkcni tabulka

INTJ

je pro ne hodne dulezita integrita (pravda). Tu odvozuji z Ni, cili plno veci "jak to je / ma byt" jsou jim jasne zrejme, ale nelze uplne presne vysvetlit proc nebo kde se to vzalo. Proste je to jejich pravda (to co citi jako spravne). Neplyne z toho ale nutne, ze maji tezky zadek (Bonda), ze jsou rigidni, ze nechteji svoje nazory menit. Zalezi zda ma v oblibe kriticke mysleni, nebo nema. Mne znami INTJ kdyz jsou konfrontovani s novou okolnosti/faktem, tak maji jako prioritu to proverit, protoze je riziko ze teda nejsou "spravne" (dulezite je mit to spravne). Pokud nova okolnost ukazuje, ze neco je jinak, tak svuj nazor zmeni. Rigidni jsou v tom smyslu, ze prave vicemene MUSI furt resit jak je to spravne a mit to spravne.

INTP

Dominantni funkce je Ti. Zkoumaji rozebiraji a skladaji systemy. Je pro ne hodnota sama o sobe to zkoumani, to pouzivani toho mysleni (jako ze maji kvalitni masinu v sobe). Ano, samozrejme je kvalitni mysleni prece take vede k "pravde" ale je tam subtilni rozdil. INTP treba zajima proc neco nejak je (jak se to stalo, jak k tomu doslo), ale az tak neresi to "spravne" napriklad nejaky zaver tykajici se toho co by se melo nebo mohlo delat, nejakou orientaci na budoucnost, nema proste tu judging extroverzi. Spis si s tim vsim tak jako pohrava, dulezity je ten proces (vynalezani, tvoreni, ...). Ano, narknout ho z nelogicnosti = tvoje masina spatne funguje = ohradi se, ale je ochoten zkoumat teda zpetne o cem se ted teda bavime, kde je ten rozpor, ukazovat svoje argumenty atd.

Oba jsou NT a oproti zbytku sveta jsou oba ohromne flexibilni a otevreni v mysleni

moje zkusenosti

bonda: to ze ti vyjde P znamena, ze tvoje extrovertni stranka casteji realizuje S nebo N akce. to
ze ti vyjde J znamena, ze tvoje extrovertni stranka casteji realizuje T nebo F akce. Ale co znamena v realu (jake akce...) je hodne odlisny u ruznych typu. Neda se rict J = tezky zadek. To se ti benny snazi rict. Tim ale napada tvou logiku, takze se musis branit skrz "ukaz mi ktery test jsi delal" atd

je treba mit na vedomi, ze MBTI byl vytvoren behem II. svetove valky. z anglicke wiki:

Briggs and Myers began creating the indicator during World War II[2] in the belief that a knowledge of personality preferences would help women who were entering the industrial workforce for the first time to identify the sort of war-time jobs that would be "most comfortable and effective" for them.

preference J/P v puvodnim systemu od Junga vubec nebyly, ale patrne tohle byla vec, kterou tamni "HRisty" hodne zajimala, z vyse uvedenych duvodu. ty preference J/P je vlastne az zjednoduseny a tipovany vystup z namerenych funkci. stejne jako ta preference E/I. Junga realne zajimaly prostredni dve pismena (N, S, T, F), a to u kazdeho cloveka vsechny a dopodrobna, vcetne e/i.

za vysledek to ma to, ze v nekterych pripadech nekomu vychazi napr. silne P a I, prestoze je jinak cilevedomy a systematicky a milujici rad, a vetsinu sveho casu se pohybuje mezi cizimi lidmi a nestezuje si. to E/I a P/J proste nemusi vzdy odpovidat definici a kolikrat neodpovida vubec.